The Devil and Daniel Johnston
Manic Depression is Touching Your Soul
2006-07-13
Manic Depression is
Touching Your Soul
With The Devil and Daniel Johnston,
Director Jeff
Feuerzeig Explores the Roots of Artistic Genius
Through
an Underground Hero’s Battle With His Demons
By Maurice Spencer Teilmann
If nothing else, the ideal of keeping up with the Joneses has relegated true singularity
to the endangered species list of
human traits. Still, occasionally an individual is birthed and through a rare
combination of unrivaled creativity and mental
instability, is able to carve their own path and offer something extraordinary.
For many, the name Daniel Johnston is merely a passing reference strung between
the names Brian Wilson and Syd Barrett; or some cryptic figure championed by
the likes of Kurt Cobain, Matt Groening and Thurston Moore. In reality, Johnston
invented himself; blessed and cursed with crippling manic depression, he created
a staggering body of work that spanned music, fine art and film. All the while,
he recorded his thoughts and songs onto countless audio tapes. These, along
with his extensive collection of sketchpads, provided the source material for
director Jeff Feuerzeig’s The Devil and Daniel Johnston, a documentary
on Daniel’s astounding journey and the study of a self-aware manic depressive
hell-bent on achieving fame. Feuerzeig, who won the award for Best Director
at the 2005 Sundance Film Festival, shared a few insights on Daniel Johnston
and the origins of enigmatic genius.
Do you have a favorite Daniel Johnston story?
[Laughing] There are a million Daniel Johnston stories… He is
pretty much a cult legend all over the world now, and they think of him as a
singer/songwriter. What people are finally understanding through this film is
that Daniel Johnston was a fine artist and a filmmaker. I want people to know
that Daniel Johnston is not just some outsider musician, because he’s
not at all. He went to art school, studied art, and he has a huge body of work.
He did all this work, really, 20-something
years ago. There’s no corporate agenda selling
this guy, there’s no reason that the world
is interested in Daniel Johnston right now
except for the fact that he did all this great
work and it’s resonating. It just touches
people and gets passed around like a secret
handshake. And I think that’s really fascinating,
it happened before there was an internet,
through fanzine culture and things like that.
It’s art through subversion, he subverts all
your expectations of what art is supposed to
look like or music is supposed to sound like.
It’s always the great artists that subvert all
of our expectations, and I think it’s really
cool that he’s done that.
You maintain that Daniel Johnston is not
an outsider artist. Still, it’s easy to interpret
his music as outsider art because it’s
pretty askew.
By definition an outsider artist is somebody who is unschooled or untrained
and might also be mentally ill. If you read a great book that I read called
Touched With Fire by Kay redfield Jamison, what you will learn is that
all the great artists, writers, poets, musicians throughout history suffered
from the same illness that Daniel Johnston suffers from, manic depression. During
their highs their great masterworks are created, and during their lows they
are self-medicating. And that’s just the way it is; Hemingway, Sylvia
Plath, Virginia Woolf, the list goes on and on and on; the people movies are
made about, novels are written about and that we still discuss today. I don’t
know why that is, but they all suffer from manic depression.
That’s what
this film is really about—whether you like the art, understand the art
or music is besides the point. What we’re doing is taking you through
the creative process, the manic depression and how tied together they are, and
go for that ride. You’re never going to get closer to that because here
you have a subject that documented his whole life on tape, and that is a rare
peek inside genius and manic depression.
And that’s why I made this movie,
because he had a great story to tell. The guy’s life is just incredible,
from making those films as a young kid to recording his whole life to running
away and joining the carnival—every young boy’s fantasy—he
did it. Breaking his way onto MTV, conning his way on, exploiting his own mental
illness, his fight with the Devil which is very real to him, Kurt Cobain stepping
in when he doesn’t even know him, while he was at a mental hospital, major
label bidding wars…why did all that happen? Because he’s special.
He deserves his due right now, and he’s getting it.
Why should a viewer not feel any sort of
moral dilemma watching your film; that we
get this enjoyment, this sublime wonder from
watching the products of essentially what has
been a tormented life?
Very simple answer. Daniel Johnston exploited his own mental illness way before
this film was ever made. His first moment on MTV, the scene from The Cutting
Edge, the first words out of his mouth are, “Hi, my name is Daniel
Johnston, and this is my new album, Hi, How Are You? and I recorded
it while having a nervous breakdown.” So Daniel has done that himself
really beautifully, so there’s no reason to feel that.
How does Daniel feel about the film?
He came and saw it at Sundance and he loved
it, he said he loved the colors, how colorful
it was. He also said he thought it should
have a laugh track, he made jokes: “Daniel’s
in the hospital, Daniel throws the lady
out the window, Daniel crashes the plane,
Daniel’s in the hospital…” He thought his
life should have a laugh track. He fancies
himself a comedian, he likes to be funny and
he’s very self-aware of how he’s seen and who
he is. He’s the wizard behind his own curtain,
he always was…