The Long and Winding Road
Flogging Molly's Dave King Has Worked His Whole Life For This Moment.
2002-05-08
The national live music circuit has been rumbling for a few years now about
the powerhouse ability and utterly impressive presentation of a seven-piece
traditional Irish-meets-punk rock outfit from Los Angeles known as Flogging
Molly.
This crew of Guinness-quaffing players features the traditional setup of an
electric guitar, bass and drums, with the addition of mandolin, accordion, fiddle
and tin whistle and acoustic guitar. The effect of what is essentially a big,
thunderous rhythm section behind a traditional Irish band is an unmistakably
huge and relentlessly driving sound that is classically catchy and pulse-pounding.
Dave King, the vocalist and rhythm guitar player at the helm of Flogging Molly,
has a vibrant and infectious stage presence, and comes off on stage like a confident,
hearty, ale-fueled master of ceremonies.
To hear King tell it, though, he is not necessarily always the passionate leader
of one of new music's most interesting and quickly rising independent punk bands.
In fact, says King from his home in Los Angeles, he suffers from pre-show jitters;
more so these days now that Flogging Molly is headlining festivals as well as
their own tours.
"Being the last band on is very nerve-wrackin' to me. I love performin'
and I'm very confident about it, but I still get very nervous. Once I go on
I'm fine, but before I go on, I can't even string a sentence together,"
says King, who answers quickly and flatly when asked about a cure for his pre-show
jitters. "Yeah, drink. Guinness, but I'm not allowed to have Bushmills
before I go on. I did that one night down in San Diego and I apparently I told
the crowd at the end of the night to go home and suck their mothers' tits. That's
not a good thing to do man, do you know what I'm saying? So I was banned from
doing that. I have a couple of pints of Guinness before I go on and that'll
usually settle me down."
Like many seasoned frontmen, King's nerves calm the second he hits the stage
and an explosive personality comes out. He leads the band as a consummate frontman
- with a friendly demeanor and assertive stance, the product of a life spent
in music.
"Well I've been playin' music since I was a kid, but I've never gotten
over my nervousness, no matter where it is, either. It could be in front of
two people or two thousand people - it doesn't make any difference," continues
the amiable Irishman. As Flogging Molly's rhythm guitar-playing and singing
frontman and songwriter, the lyrical content and musical intent of the songs
comes chiefly from the mind, heart and soul of Dave King. Writing music, he
says, has become a catharsis for him, a way of getting what's in his head out,
though it had never occurred to him that his pre-performance nervousness could
be a product of the personal nature of his music.
"I never fuckin' thought of that. That's a very good point," Kings
pauses for a minute and refers back to a time when he was new to American shores,
having left his homeland under not necessarily the best circumstances. It's
that string of experiences, he says, that began to form his habits as a songwriter.
"I think that if I hadn't moved to America, I wouldn't be writing this
way. I think it took me leaving my home to make me look back at myself. And
it's funny that you brought that up because I'm actually talkin' to ya at the
table where I always write my songs and it's a very passionate, personal little
space that I have. I write all my songs and all my lyrics right here. It's very
personal, that's a very good point, and I've never actually thought about that
before - that I'm going out in front of a crowd every night and singin' about
my dead father. But the whole atmosphere turns it into a celebration."
The atmosphere King speaks of both arises from and engulfs the entire experience
that is a Flogging Molly performance. The last time King and his crew landed
in Chico, CA at The Brick Works, for instance, it was as the supporting act
for Epitaph Records mainstays, the Bouncing Souls. But it was Flogging Molly
who stole the show that evening. From the second the band stepped onto the stage
until well after they had made their exit, the entire audience, a capacity crowd
of frothing, screaming all-ages fans - old and new - clamored for more of the
music that ignited the air throughout the entire space for the better part of
an hour. Kids with Mohawks and liberty spikes, indie rockers in horn-rimmed
glasses, skinheads, average Joe College types, frat boys and everyone in between
all pushed up as close to the stage as they could get, singing along in unison
with every lyric, pumping their fists in the air with every break, change and
rhythmic pattern that poured off the stage, and exploding with thunderous applause
at the end of every number - especially crowd favorites like "Salty Dog,"
"Black Friday Rule" and "The Likes of You Again," a song
King wrote about his father.
"I wonder, does he hear these people singin' these songs?" poses King,
whose father passed on when the singer was young. "All he did was pump
gas for a living, and he had a lot of things to say, but he came from an Ireland
that was different, that was under British rule. He had a lot of opinions but
he never got them out, so it's almost like I'm gettin' 'em out for him. So when
I hear people sing 'The Likes of You Again' and songs like that, it's almost
heartbreaking. When I write my lyrics, they take a lot out of me, it's very
personal and it takes a lot of energy for me to write. But when we play live
and I see the crowd reaction like that, it's like a fuckin' medicine to me.
What else could I do with my life, what else would I want to do with my life?
This is just great, it really is."
Music is something that King has dedicated his life to beginning at a young
age, from the traditional Irish folk of his early days and the influence music
of his parents' music to his infatuation with the rebelliousness of rock 'n'
roll.
"Flogging Molly is definitely the combination of a lot of things, and for
me it started out in Beggars Bush, where I was born and lived for 17 years,"
explains King. "My father died when I was ten, but I always remember before
he died. We just had one room - we lived in a tenement house ya' know - but
for some reason Max, we had a fuckin' piano in the room, and how it got there
I'll never know and how it left I'll never know, but it was there. Most Friday
and Saturday nights, my mother and father would go out for a couple of pints
and they'd come back with a gang of people and sit on the floor or in chairs
or wherever, all around in a circle, and they'd each take turns singin'. My
mother was a piano player, my uncle was an accordion player, there were tin
whistles out and I'd play the spoons. So now, not knowing it at first, I'm going
back there in a sense - I'm trying to go back to that honesty and that tradition
of storytelling.
"My father said to me one day, 'I'm gonna take you out to buy a couple
of albums,'" King recalls another major influence, "and he bought
me two live albums. The first was by The Doubliners, Live at the Gate Theater,
and the other was Johnny Cash's Folsom Prison Blues. I remember him playing
them all the time, and they must have been ingrained in my brain as well. And
then of course, as I was growing up, I obviously didn't know at the time that
it's what I'd be doing now, and I tried to run away from all that traditional
music. If you had played a fiddle to me, I would scream my fuckin' head off,
I didn't want to be involved in that anymore, I wanted to get away from it and
I wanted to be in a rock band. The first band I ever saw in my youth that really
fuckin' blew my head off was a group called Horslips. They mixed traditional
music with the rock of the time and it intrigued me the way that, one minute
you'd have a fiddle, and the next minute, you're fuckin' rockin' out. I'd never
seen that before, and I remember standing there and thinkin' to myself, 'I've
got to do this.'"
King made a career out of music, writing songs and fronting rock bands that
didn't touch his heart but afforded him a living and an opportunity to do something
that he loved. At a time when his life in Ireland was in a tough spot, he was
offered the chance to come to America - an opportunity and a needed change,
he thought.
"When I came to America, I came over to join a band, but the band didn't
work out," reveals King, who found himself having to choose between heading
back to his native Ireland or staying in Los Angeles and making a life there.
"I thought, 'The sun is shinin' here and it's probably rainin' back home.
I think I'll stay here.' So I stayed here and got out of a record deal that
I had with Epic Records. I had a solo deal, but it just didn't work out and
I asked if they would drop me. They did, and I was just gonna pick up the acoustic
guitar and just play for myself. That's all. I had a little bit of cash left
over so I decided to take some time, write for myself and go to a bar and sit
and play, just for me. And that's how Flogging Molly started."
King began playing music as a soloist, writing very much for himself and playing
out in a Los Angeles bar called Molly Malone's. He wasn't looking for it at
the time, but those nights at Molly Malone's were the humble beginnings of Flogging
Molly. King didn't set out to build a band, he was just looking to find himself
as a musician, and in the process fell into a good situation that just got better
as it unfolded.
"The band just came together, it wasn't put together. When I met our accordion
player, Matt Hensley, for instance, I'd never even heard him play. I met him
in the bar one night, there was no band on and we just happened to be there
drinkin' at the same time," remembers King. After a few pints and some
polite conversation, the two had resolved to play together. The band's formation
was a sublime union, says King and it worked itself out naturally. "It
just all came together like that. I hate to put the mockers on it, but the thing
is that it was meant to be. I've never experienced anything else like this,
that's for sure."
King's personal connection to his music is equaled only by his personal connection
to his band mates. Referring back to the vivacious nature of Flogging Molly
live shows, King says that the prevalent atmosphere is a product of the band's
passion for the music and his own passion for making a connection with the crowd.
It's important for King to know that his fans are getting something out of what
they're seeing and hearing, and it's the music's personal nature that drives
the raw emotion in expression, resulting in such a powerful energy that permeates
the room.
"Even though we're a full-time band and we generate that energy of having
a good time, I'm certainly very private about what I put out. I mean, I put
out so much crap for so many years that, if not for me or my immediate family,
I wanna leave something behind that people ten years down the road pick up,
put on and think, 'wow this is really good,' whether I'm around or not,"
exclaims King. "I want to leave something behind because I've been in so
many bands and I've written so much bollocks - the worst lyrics of all fuckin'
time and they're all out on albums, on CDs - that the thought alone of listening
to them would drive a stake through my fuckin' heart. So yeah, it is very personal,
but that's the way I want it to be. I want to be able to stand up on stage and
bleed every fuckin' word that I say. There's no bullshit up there. We're having
a great time, yeah, we're havin' lots of fun but I'm still very fuckin' serious
about what I'm doin'. I've become that way because of my past and that's fine,
I can live with that and I love that. I want it to be that way."
It's King's past and life experiences that lead him to Flogging Molly, for better
or for worse - and these days, it's definitely for the better. Flogging Molly
tours almost perpetually, pounding the pavement in the U.S. and in Europe, and
will be spending the coming summer as headliners on the Warped Tour. With a
new album, Drunken Lullabies (Side One Dummy), out now and a quickly
growing following of doggedly loyal fans, there is seemingly no end in sight
for King and Flogging Molly. And this is what King has been working towards
his whole life.
"When I was sittin' down in Molly Malone's with my acoustic guitar, if
you'd asked me if I thought I'd ever do the Warped Tour, I'd say no," King
supposes. "The way this has gone, even though it seem like it's been really
quick that we're doing all these things, to me it's been years in the making
in the sense that it's really taken me this long to be able to stand on my two
feet as a human being and as a songwriter. And the band - I mean, the energy
I get off them as people, not just as musicians…as I said it's something
that I've never felt before. I've never been involved in a band like this. It's
really weird - there's a genuine fuckin' love for each other there."
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