Newspaper In The Wind
An Interview with Cole Marquis of the Snowmen
2000-05-01
Most people think that the Mother Hips were the biggest band to ever originate from Chico. Wrong. Back in the 1980s and early 1990s, Chico was home to a burgeoning college rock scene in the traditional sense. (Think R.E.M., Replacements, etc.) At the forefront of this scene, there was a band known as 28th Day. The band, consisting of Cole Marquis (vocals, guitar), Michael Cloward (drums) and Barbara Manning (vocals, bass) was one of the more influential bands of the "Paisley Revolution" (a neo-psychedelic revival that combined pop songwriting with psychedelic sounds) and received critical acclaim from many diverse sources such as Sounds, Option and the Los Angeles Times before disbanding around 19xx.
After 28th Day, Barbara Manning went on to front the S.F.
Seals, and now has a successful solo career on the über-hip Matador
label. Opting to remain in Chico, Marquis formed a new band, the Downsiders,
featuring Marquis on vocals and guitar, Jeff Tracy on guitar, Keith Foust
on drums and miscellaneous percussion, and Chris Cloward on vocals and
bass. The Downsiders gathered much acclaim and blazed a new music path,
singing with the Mammoth label (now home of the Squirrel Nut Zippers)
before ultimately disbanding in 19xx. Marquis released a few solo tapes
on ex-28th Day drummer Michael Cloward's Devil in the Woods
label before ultimately moving to San Francisco.
It was there that Marquis met Rich Avella through a mutual friend. At
the time (November of 1993), Marquis was playing a few shows to promote
his solo tape, Starlite Drive-In. Avella's old band, The Bohemians,
had just broken up and he was looking for a new gig. The mutual friend
loaned Avella Starlite Drive-in, thinking that Marquis and Avella
would play well together. Avella listened to the tape, agreed, and caught
Marquis playing a solo show at the Paradise Lounge. After the show, Avella
approached Marquis about forming a band. Marquis eventually agreed, and
Avella recruited Mike Ehrardt and the original drummer, who at the time
were both going to recording school at San Francisco State. The fledgling
group rehearsed together and decided they liked the sound. After John
left, the band continued as a three piece, with Avella switching to bass,
Ehrardt on drums. before adding Patrick Main on drums in 1995.
Snowmen, now consisting of Cole Marquis (vocals, guitar), Rich Avella
(guitar, vocals), Mike Ehrardt (drums, bass) and Patrick Main (keyboards,
drums) isn't a departure from the sounds Marquis was exploring in the
'80s, but rather an evolution. Snowmen play what Marquis terms "cine-pop"-an
amalgam of all genres of music in a pop settling. "I listen to a lot of
soundtracks, '60s-soundtrack stuff, I'm really into that and some of the
exotica stuff. Burt Bacharach, stuff like that. I've really been listening
to a lot of stuff like that lately and it just sort of adds up. After
a while, you end up bringing those influences in."
Unlike many bands, Snowmen has been exploring the wheezing sounds of
the farfisa keyboard for years-three, to be precise. Marquis always loved
the sound of a farfisa, but was never able to find anyone able to play
in the classic '60s sound he craved. "With Patrick, it just sort of happened
as an accident… We just happened to have a [farfisa] keyboard lying around
the studio." Main picked it up at a practice one day, and suggested they
add it to the band. "It turned out that he was just an incredible keyboard
player and totally changed the whole band… He also plays an electric Wurlitzer-an
electric piano, which [also] has a really classic '60s kind of sound to
it. It that sense, it was an accident; but it was also something I always
looked forward to doing if it ever happened."
Snowmen's neo-psychedelic sound isn't limited to the farfisa; Marquis
also cites influences "like 'The End' by the Doors, definitely… I really
was drawn to that super-psychedelic kind of guitar stuff-it wasn't lead
orientated. It was more modal, more rhythmic." However, Snowmen is anything
but a nostalgia band; Marquis' songwriting is also inspired by modern
techniques. "We started playing around with not necessarily the guitar
aspect of it [but all kinds of sounds. Sampling, and everything-mixing
more of that sort of stuff in to get that kind of otherworldly sound,
rather than just tuning the guitars weird and going for it, as loud as
we can."
Not that Marquis is a strange to that; in fact, he has built a quite
reputation for his formidable guitar skills. From open, alternate tunings
to slide guitar, Marquis' effortless grace is something you must experience
live. "Sonic Youth's always been a big influence, definitely. I learned
alternative tunings when I first started playing guitar but it was blues,
like blues tunings. Actually, Matt Hogan taught me a few blues tunings.
He used to live above me and Barbara [Manning] when I first started playing
guitar-this is '82… And I started reading about Sonic Youth and I just
thought, 'This is something I'd really like to hear,' and when I first
heard them, it really just blew me away because they were a band that
was just really taking that thing and just doing it."
When asked if he ever felt limited by what audiences wanted to hear,
Marquis paused. "Not really… My years in Chico, musically, were really
blessed as far as audience goes. [When] 28th Day started out,
we had to build up an audience. But once 28th Day built up
an audience, we did really well. And the Downsiders, too had to build
up an audience. People weren't super into us at first. We worked for it…
toured a lot, did a lot of work… Yeah, they were expecting a rock 'n'
roll show; but I was a lot younger then too-we were totally willing to
give it to them."
When asked if he ever felt like he was living in the shadow of his old
bands, with constant mention of 28th Day and the Downsiders
in nearly every write-up of the Snowmen, Marquis quipped, "No, but I sometimes
feel like I'm living in the shadow of Barbara Manning… I'm still super
good friends with Barbara and stuff; we're doing a show with her really
soon… but it's like, 'I haven't played with her in like fifteen years!'
… I don't mind it that much because it might perk somebody's interest
and they might go, 'Oh, well, I really like Barbara; maybe I'll read about
this band or listen to their music.' …It's funny, it can be sort of funny."
Currently, the Snowmen aren't with a label. Although the band was very
happy with Double Play Records, who released their second CD and first
domestic release, In Orbit, the band felt it was time to move on.
The band has been touring constantly, and even recently played played
the legendary SXSW (South By Southwest) festival in Austin. "For me, the
best part of the whole experience was just being there." Marquis said.
The band has songs out on a half-dozen compilations, and Cole has another
solo tape coming out on the recently reborn Devil in the Woods label (www.devilinthewoods.com)
Above all, Cole and the band remain optimistic. "Things are definitely
happening right now, that includes European touring and stuff like that.
And we're working on American stuff too, it's going to happen sooner or
later,"
Although they haven't found a label that they feel comfortable enough
to sign to, the new Snowmen album, Last Days of the Central Freeway,
has been recorded and ready for release for nearly a year now. The disc
is a bit more polished than their previous release, and very well could
be the disc that kicks door open for the band. "In Orbit was pretty
much four-track stuff, and the rest of it was recorded in one day; and
it was sort of slapped together. But I really like the feel of that record
a lot. So we tried to keep the feel-the immediate feel of the record-but
we definitely expanded a lot more. It's a lot longer [around 45 minutes]
where In Orbit is the classic thirty minutes or less. There's a
lot more sounds going on; I'd have to say it's a fuller sounding record.
There's still four-track stuff on there, but we did a lot of segueing.
It's a bit trippier…It's solid; I feel it's really a solid record. It's
a little more rocking too… a little bit more upbeat."
Although most bands disband after laboring for years in (relative)
obscurity, Marquis and his bandmates haven't lost their passion for making
music, nor their drive to be heard. "We'd love to be a lot more stable
as far as knowing whose going to put our records out, and when they're
going to come out," Marquis commented. "I'd like to see us doing more
ambient kind of stuff… more access to put out our own kind of stuff-weird
four-track stuff.. we'd just like to be comfortable be able to tour a
lot… In five years, I'll be over forty. For me, the next five years are
the five years really… I'd just like to see a little stability.
I've had the wild times, as wild as they can possible be; I'd just rather
have more of a comfort zone to be able to put stuff out whenever I want
to… We're not going to quit. Music is not something I'm going to retire
from in any foreseeable future; I have too much fun doing it and I do
it on my own, at home, because I want to.