Throw the Kittie a Bone
Kittie frontwoman Morgan Lander stays on task and still kicks ass
2003-02-13
After a year-and-a-half of marathon touring in support of their sophomore LP
Oracle and recent industrial-remix / live stuff EP, Safe, Kittie
are wrapping up the last leg of their tour in Chico at the one and only Brick
Works on Sunday, February 16th. The band has met a great deal of adversity over
their short career - coming to public attention as an unheard of all-chick black
metal band, but quickly facing lineup changes and an apathetic record label.
After taking a minute to get up the nervous courage to call Kittie frontwoman
Morgan Lander - the black metal chick I want to both birth and then eat my babies
- I dialed her number shakily and luckily found her in the middle of a Phil-Anselmo-sized
hangover. Meow!
How are you doin'?
I'm all right - just waking up, starting the day. Everybody had a little bit
of a wild night last night. We were in Dallas and we went over to the Clubhouse,
which is Pantera's strip club and…beat our brains with liquor.
Sweet. What's your favorite drink?
Well, I was drinking red wine last night.
The good stuff or the Franzia boxed variety?
It was the cheap Ryder wine.
Jug of the Julio Gallo?
Yeah that's what it was. Seriously, I was drinking that.
Gnarly. How did you come to work with Sascha of KMFDM?
Initially, when we came up with the idea to do a remix, we had written a list
of people who would probably be very plausible - and some of them very implausible
- and said, "Hey, maybe we can try to work this out and try to get a hold
of some of these people," and I guess the most appropriate one was right
in our backyard. We share the same merchandising company, we work with the same
people, know the same people, so it was really easy to just say, "Hey can
you get Sascha's number, and we'll propose this remix and see how he reacts,"
and it was fairly easy. He was a really easygoing guy, great to talk to. Obviously
he has many, many skills in his art form. We pretty much gave everything to
him and said, "It's in your court. Do whatever you want." He did his
thing. He's been doing this sort of thing for over 10 years now so he's got
a good reputation. He's done a lot of remixes for other bands.
We wanted it to be a surprise. I think it's the beauty of getting another outside
perspective of the song. Initially, Safe was one entity, and it's kinda
neat to hear someone else's perspective on things and someone else's take, especially
when they're doing a whole different side of music.
What spurred the interest in bringing industrial music into the mix more
than you have in the past?
It was just something that we'd never done before. Its important to keep people
guessing and it's not something that I think we're looking into as doing full-time
or getting more heavily into. That's definitely not what this band's heart and
soul really is. We really liked the way that it turned out and I don't think
we'd be opposed to sticking a remix on a B-side or as a bonus on the end of
the next album. But, I don't think it will be popping up into all of our songs
any time soon.
Besides a few phenomenal bands here and there, the metal scene seems more
stagnant than ever. Would you agree?
I think in terms of popularity and visibility in the mainstream…definitely,
there's not a lot going on. It had a little bit of a resurgence during that
nü-metal thing, which is kind of an isolated incident. A band would be
rapping and playing metal and kids would finally wake up and think, "Hey,
I'm ready to get into something heavier." But that's gone out the window,
'cause that got old real quick. I think now what we have to do as music lovers
is dig deep for bands. There's lots of stuff underground, lots of bands that
are connected - that are friends and tour a lot together and are in scenes.
You've gotta dig deep into those scenes and find the smaller bands and I think
that's probably the way. Someone's gonna have to get big eventually. Everybody's
finding out about this great band on a small label. Usually that's the way that
things start - from there everybody starts to build on that.
How is Kittie staying relevant within the context of this more-quiet-than-ever
scene?
We're a band that's not afraid to voice our opinion. We're not afraid to really
show our influences and what we're learning and to actually be a heavy
metal band to that full extent. A lot of people come up to me and say, "Hey,
there's not a lot of bands that can be considered a heavy metal act that are
touring and playing in front of this many people." We're doing between
500 and 1000 people a night. I'm not one to dictate why we're relevant and why
not. But, it's obvious that there is something still very, very important about
what we're doing if a year-and-a-half after we've released a full-length album
people are still coming out to see us. [They're] still appreciating the
live shows, still appreciating what we're doing for music and even the whole
"women's" side of things - if people want to get into that, that's
cool. I think people are just happy that there's still a metal band that will
refuse to stop touring.
Is there any hope of seeing Kittie back on the Ozzfest lineup this year?
I would love to. It would be a great opportunity; I think that's up to the powers
that be in Ozzfest, really. Hopefully we can make that happen and work together.
We had a great run in 2000. It always seems whenever we get in front of a large
audience, people react to that - people really go off. It's something I'd love
to do to prove to people, we're still right there, we're still kicking ass,
still doing our thing.
How is the relationship with Kittie and Artemis Records?
[Laughing] Interesting, definitely…to say the least. They really
haven't given us much support at all for this album - both Oracle and
Safe. I don't know what to make of it anymore. They're pretty much a
non-entity in what's going on. We're doing everything ourselves nowadays. We
really don't see much of them anymore - kinda makes me wonder where they are
and what's going on. I think we'll see what happens. We've had a great run so
far. I don't think the albums got the support that they needed. Ultimately,
we had to go and tour for a year-and-a half.
It looks like The Brick Works in Chico is your final stop for this tour?
Do you dig playing in Chico?
Yeah! It's been great every time we've been through. We try to make it a point
to come through at least once every six or seven months to remind people we're
still touring, working hard, playing metal. And it's something we'll be doing
for a long time, and they won't be disappointed. Come to the show, it's gonna
be different than the last time.
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